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and the same is true in the wine press.
In light of the halakha that was taught in this Mishnah a dilemma was raised before the rabbis: What is the legal status of a karmelit in this matter? Is it permissible to stand in one domain and drink from a karmelit or not? Abaye said: That case is equal to that case, i.e., the same way that the r
Abaye said: From where do I say that halakha, i.e., that the decree applies to a karmelit? From that which we learned at the end of the Mishnah in tractate Eiruvin: And the same is true in the wine press. The question arises: What is the status of the wine press in terms of the domains of Shabbat?
Rava said: That which we learned in the Mishnah: And the same is true in the wine press, is not relevant to the halakhot of Shabbat. It refers to the matter of the halakhot of tithes. And Rav Sheshet also said: That which we learned in the Mishnah: And the same is true in the wine press, refers
As proof for Abaye’s opinion, the Talmud states that which we learned in our Mishnah: The tailor may not go out with his needle adjacent to nightfall on Friday, lest he forget that he is carrying the needle and go out with it to the public domain even after Shabbat begins. Is it not speaking here in