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one can counter that the rite is performed outside the Temple, and so it does not require a service vessel. And if you suggest it was for measuring the oil for the loaves of a nazirite, one can counter that the loaves of a nazirite are consecrated through the slaughter of the ram he brings, and the
R' Ḥiyya said to R' Yehuda HaNasi: The consecration of the quarter-log measuring vessel was necessary, as with it one would measure oil for the High Priest’s griddle-cake offering, as 1/4th-log of oil is used for each and every loaf. In praise for resolving his difficulty, R' Yehuda HaNasi read the
§ The Mishnah teaches: What purpose did the half-log measuring vessel serve? It was used to measure a half-log of water for the sota and a half-log of oil for the thanks offering. The Talmud relates: R' Yehuda HaNasi was sitting in study and posed a difficulty: For what purpose was the half-log mea
R' Shimon, son of R' Yehuda HaNasi, said to his father: The consecration of the half-log measuring vessel was necessary, as with it one would distribute a half-log of oil to each and every lamp of the Candelabrum. R' Yehuda HaNasi said to his son in praise: Lamp of Israel! Indeed, that was its use.
§ Apropos the lamps of the Candelabrum, the Talmud relates that R' Yoḥanan says that R' Yehuda HaNasi says: If there is a lamp whose flame went out during the night, the oil in the lamp is halakhically rendered as ashes and the wick is rendered as ashes, and they may no longer be used. How should