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is identical to the opinion of the Rabbis, as the end of the period that begins with the midpoint of the afternoon is sunset.
The Talmud immediately rejects this proof: Rather, what is the alternative? That until means until and not including? It remains problematic. Say the latter clause of the Mishnah: The additional prayer may be recited all day. R' Yehuda says: It may be recited until the 7 hours. And it was taught i
The relevant point is: Granted, if you say that until means until and including, that is how you can find a situation where the times to recite two prayers, the afternoon prayer and the additional prayer, overlap. But if you say that until means until and not including, and that until 7 hours mean
Rather, what is the alternative? That until means until and including? Then the first clause of the Mishnah is difficult, as explained above with regard to the midpoint of the afternoon: What is the halakhic difference between the opinion of R' Yehuda and the opinion of the Rabbis? The Talmud ans
Practically speaking, this means that, according to R' Yehuda, it is permissible to recite the morning prayer until the end of the 4th hour. In support of this Rav Naḥman said: We, too, learned this in a Mishnah: